059: Balancing Disability & Entrepreneurship with Sara Thompson, creator of the Combat Wheelchair

Courtney: 29:26

So I actually have a patron question that I wanna make sure that I ask before we switch to totally different topic, which is, is there any system that you haven’t written for that you would like to write for whether that’s, you know, bringing a version of the combat wheelchair to it or something else? Like any games out there that you wanna write for

Sara: 30:20

Star Wars, please. Like I’ve,

Courtney: 30:24

yeah.

Sara: 30:24

mentioned it a couple times on Twitter. I’m like, yeah, that would, that would be the dream like is to, to bring cuz star Wars does have a lot of great stuff in terms of disability representation, but it’s so often written by people who aren’t disabled and suffers a lot of the pitfalls of that, where I’m for example, like the biggest one for me is Darth beta. And the fact that his suit is deliberately poorly designed to keep him in pain. The pain keeps him angry, and the anger makes him hurt people. And I’m just like, thank you, George Lucas, for that. As much as I love Star Wars, thank you for that. But, but then on the other hand, one of the villains that I’m like, is a great disabled villain is Darth Maul because he just happens to be disabled and a villain. Like like they could have gone the whole route of him hating Obi Wan because Obi Wan, you know, chopped him in half, but he hates Obi Wan because Obi Wan was a Padawan and he beat him and that’s like, that hurt his pride. And yeah, so, so getting to, to see that be the character was like really refreshing when I watched Clone Wars because I was like, oh my goodness, finally, a villain who isn’t evil because he’s disabled, he’s just evil and disabled which is how it should be if you’re gonna do that. So getting to I think work on Star Wars would be great. Like there are a lot of concepts and stuff at the minute that are kind of lacking in the game, but are there in like different media sources from Star Wars, like bad batch with Echo and the fact that he uses his prosthetics to like slice into computer mainframes and can also dismantle like droids and stuff with it and also uses it as a weapon. I love, I love Echo, like, he’s my favorite one, but he’s, he’s like a really good disabled character. And the fact that he still carries trauma, because one of the interesting things about his character is he was on a planet essentially, was captured, tortured and fitted with cybernetics and robotic parts against his will. And like the trauma of adjusting to that and adjusting to life with a disability that he either didn’t know was coming- like some disabled people are aware that it’s a possibility for them, that it then affects their later life. And also him not consenting to it as well, and that’s interesting for a character. But it’s never portrayed in a way where he’s like, oh, I hate my life and it’s not worth anything. It’s him adjusting to that. And still realizing that he is as much a person as anyone else. And like, that is such a good message. I think, especially as somebody who, whose, you know, disability came abruptly at age 12 and like, I hadn’t really had any warning. But looking back on it now, obviously the warning signs were there, but none of us knew. So like, you know, I can kind of relate to just abruptly one day, you are disabled now and having to adjust to that and knowing that I couldn’t do things that other kids could anymore. And you know, it makes you feel like an outlier, like an outsider essentially. And seeing a character who had that kind of same progression of just like one day wakes up and he now has cybernetic limbs and you know, talks about the pain of having those things because chronic pain, as well as the emotional trauma that it does as well. And yet having a support group around him who treats him as a person and, you know, reminds him that those feelings are absolutely valid and it doesn’t make you any less of a person for feeling that way is great. And it’s also another reason why I’m like, like no Clone Wars and Bad Batch. Aren’t just like, kids’ cartoons. Like, you know, as an adult, you can get so much enjoyment out of them as well because of how specific the storytelling is and getting to see disabled characters like that, with those stories where their stories, aren’t just, you know, pity parties essentially, where they’re made out to be the sad person all the time. It’s really validating. And it’s great to see that that’s happening more now. And that we’re seeing, especially like, I don’t know if it’s just me, but seeing more of it in Star Wars is just really cool. Like when the Mandalorian came out and the Tuscan Raiders have sign language and it was actually invented by somebody who worked on the Mandalorian who’s deaf and uses sign language. So like the sign language actually was a sign language. It wasn’t just: sometimes you see people just throw up random hand gestures and claim it as a sign language without realizing the nuances of different gestures. Cuz even how far you hold out your hands from your body indicates the volume and intensity that you’re signing with. And yeah, getting to see that in the Mandalorian was great. Like I was like, oh my God, it’s an actual sign language. Cuz I did linguistics as part as my degree, and I was watching it and I was like, oh great. They’re doing a sign language. It’s probably not gonna be one. Saw it and I was like, oh my God, they did the research. Oh my God. And then finding out that it was a disabled deaf person who did it, that’s just like extra great, like yes, more like that content like, I would love that. So yeah, getting to, to bring that, I think into the, whether it’s the fantasy flight games or the fifth edition hack, either way I would love to work on both. Like, because I think that, that area, especially in the tabletop is kind of lacking just a little bit like and I think with all the new stuff coming out now, there’s a lot of like wiggle room there for all of these really cool ideas that you can bring into Star Wars through tabletop and, you know, validate more disabled people who love Star Wars, because as someone who is disabled and love Star Wars, I got loads of disabled friends who really love Star Wars, and it would be great if they could play people like them where the game, you know, actively encourages disabled people to be empowered in their stories would just be, yeah, fantastic.

Courtney: 36:17

Yeah, absolutely. I feel like I could follow this train of thought with you for a really long time, but I don’t have the time to do that. So I am gonna pivot us because you know what, representation is so fucking important. And now I wanna talk about like, I wanna get into your strategies. You know, like I wanna know just all about like being a freelancer while you’re trying to balance your own disabilities and your own energy levels. And I mean, I wanna, I guess start with like, do you even have what you would call like a typical day or week? If so, what does that look like? Or is it just different all of the time, because life.

Sara: 36:56

Yeah. I guess like my typical day is like I set myself around about six, six or seven hours to work. And make sure I take like a breaks. So like I’ll have like a proper, like half hour lunch break, but then I’ll have like a couple 10 minute breaks within those hours. Whether that’s like I get up and, you know, go play with the, the dogs for about 10 minutes or I play a video game for 10 minutes or read a book or whatever for 10 minutes to do that. But also when I, when I first started out, I had this real thing because it happened so quickly like that this snowball effect of getting to work on so many things that I felt I couldn’t say no. And I would take on loads of workloads and then force to work on them as long as I possibly could. You know, pulling all nighters when you’ve got chronic pain and chronic fatigue, not a good idea. It’s just surprisingly who would’ve known. But making sure you set those boundaries, not just for your employers, but also for yourself as a person, like being aware as well, that you’re not a bad person if you have to take a day off because of a chronic pain flare up and making sure you establish that communication with the people that you are working for or with because I had this really bad anxiety that if I so much as said I was struggling with my physical health, that I would be taken off the project because that is a real concern, disabled and chronically ill people have whether they’re working you know, like an everyday physical job or a desk job. You know, there’s that kind of worry that you’ll be seen as weaker and therefore not important to the project anymore. Which, you know, as long as you keep open communication with the people you’re working with, they are more than happy to make sure that, you know, you’ve got enough wiggle room. A lot of the time from experience working in the industry now is these projects like they’re being written and made like usually a year in advance of when the actual product needs to be finished and out by, so you taking a day or two or a week where you are really, you know, ill and struggling with your disability or mental health that, you know, there, there is more than enough wiggle room for you, as long as you can just tell people, you know, where you are at with stuff and be honest and have good communication with them. Yeah, like they’re more than more than willing to accommodate, and if they’re not, that kind of reflects really badly on them as people and company. So just, before I sign contracts and stuff is I’m like, I just wanna be clear that there might be days where I can’t work and things like that and make sure that they are aware that these days can just happen randomly. So it’s not like I can be like, oh, I’m not feeling too well today. So I might take tomorrow off if it’s like, it could be, or it couldn’t be, I could feel bad when I go to bed, but wake up fine. And then vice versa. So yeah, doing stuff like that, making sure as well I found is having two pill organizers now where I keep one downstairs by my computer and then one upstairs so that when I get up first thing in the morning, I take all my tablets down, but then come downstairs and I’ve got my tablets that normally I’ll need during those break times. So like, I’ll have them there. So I don’t have to, you know, put energy into getting up the stairs and, and things like that. And I’ve also made it a habit that because cooking can be really tiring as well. It’s like when I take those breaks, I usually have something instant for lunch. I’m pretty lucky that I still live at home at the minute. So like dinner: parents can sort out which is very nice and kind of them. But yeah, like stuff like lunch or breakfast is just usually quick things that I can either pick at while working or can easily get whilst I’m working or take a break. And yeah, it’s a lot of it comes down to like being kind to yourself and knowing your limitations and that having those limitations aren’t anything bad. Which was really hard for me to adjust to in the beginning. Because like I said, yeah, there’s that fear that like, if you turn down one project, suddenly no projects will come and it’s like, no, that’s not how it works. And if you have to say, I can’t do it this time, that doesn’t mean that company is never gonna talk to you ever again. it just means, okay, you weren’t a fit this time, but we’ll keep you in mind for future endeavors and stuff like that. So yeah. Just, just pacing yourself as well. Like, I won’t work with a specific goal in mind when I’m working on projects. Like if I’m writing an adventure, I’ll be like, I’ll be happy if I can get, if it’s a really bad like brain fog day, I’ll be like, I’m happy if I can, even if I don’t write anything, I’ll just be happy if I can just look things over and fix any glaring issues, like misspellings or word changes that need to happen. And I’ll be happy with that. So yeah. Even if it’s like, you suddenly get a flare up and that’s it, you can only work a half day is to not push yourself beyond what you feel you are capable and able to adjust to. Because you know, it could be a bad pain day, but I’ll be like, oh, I can just put my, my knee support on and then it should be fine. But some days it’s like, no, I’m gonna need to take my really strong pain medication, which is going to make me too tired to do anything. And if I write anything, it’ll come out as gibberish. So just be honest with yourself set you know, a good pace and basically adjust your work desk and like, or your workroom or whatever to best suit your needs. Like I have a hydraulic desk and my chair, is like an orthopedic gaming chair, so it’s, it’s as comfortable for me as it can possibly be. Without you know, taking up loads and loads of space or being something that like, you know, is, is a chair that I now permanently use rather than like switching chairs out and stuff. It’s like, it’s just more convenient to have one thing that works. But yeah, having stuff as well, like be as organized as you can get it is usually I say as my desk is currently a mess at the moment, but to be fair, I was working on just personal artwork. So like I just move stuff over to one side for now. But but yeah, usually like having it organized in a way that maybe it’s not, you know, the most sensible or sensical to other people, but if it works for you, like that’s great. And yeah, I can’t stress enough as well is either have like a physical calendar or a calendar on your PC or whatever that popups and gives you notifications of when things are due or not, because. One day you can be working and be like, yep. This is when the deadline is it’s tomorrow. And then tomorrow comes and you’ve got a really bad brain fog day and you’re walking around thinking I should have done something. What haven’t I done? And then, you know, you get an email the next day from work saying, Hey, where’s your project? And you’re like, oh crap. which I’ve done a couple times. especially when I was like first starting out. I know there’s no real like set answer because obviously everyone’s disability affects them differently and the adjustments they need will be vastly different to what I need. But I cannot stress enough that if you are incapable of doing something that day or to a specific deadline is be honest with yourself and your employer and just let them know. Be honest, like with yourself and don’t try and push yourself because you’ll make yourself feel worse. And you’ll probably make your flare up last longer. Which, yeah, I’ve never done that before. Um, No experience with that. But yeah, like just, be aware that, you know, it, it doesn’t reflect badly on you, if you can’t do something or are struggling to do something and yeah. Adjust, adjust your life and your work life around your personal needs, even if it’s only like you can work. I know I, I work around roughly six or seven hours a day, but someone else might only be able to work two to three hours a day and that’s fine. I’ve also found, like having interests directly outside of work as well. Like something that I can immediately come away from and like a work and immediately jump into if it’s, even if it’s just drawing or finishing a book or watching a TV show, having those things is really important as well. I, I know when people have jobs and stuff, they stress like, you know, self care’s important, but I feel like it’s doubly so if you’re disabled, chronically ill or neuro divergent because you often feel that pressure’s on you to kind of act quote unquote normal, like everyone else. And it, you, you can’t, and you shouldn’t have to pretend to and usually make things worse for yourself by pretending to be so, figure out what works for you. And if people unaccepting of that, that’s really on them and not you. And yeah again, like keep that open communication with employers. They’ll really appreciate the fact that you can just be honest with them and tell them that you know, you’re struggling with something and it might be that they can offer help or just even extend the deadline for you and put to, to rest like the worries that you may be having. It’s, it’s really not the end of the world. If you can’t meet something on time or if you have a flare up or something that happens completely, you know, at the drop of a hat, like I get. So yeah, your work life around your like disability and figure out what works best for you. And don’t feel that you have to compromise on that in any way or that you have to adjust to other people who may not understand what your experience is like. Yeah, that’s usually the, the kind of best advice I can really offer.

Courtney: 46:57

I was identifying myself in a lot of things that you just said was like, Hmm. Yeah. That’s, that’s been a work in progress.

Sara: 47:06

yeah.

Courtney: 47:06

I just, I have to say like, personally that following like you and your advocacy over the, I mean, obviously you’ve been doing it for much longer, but like just, I found you maybe a year and a half ago or so and I was born disabled. I, and then I also like developed another chronic illness early last year, but I never really like accepted those things about myself. And so being able to see all of like the work that you’ve been doing and like just how much you’re advocating for like, Hey, there’s a spectrum was really helpful and beneficial for me personally. I just have to say like, you helped me get through like some of the shittiest times in my life last year cuz it was always this like, oh sure. I was born with this thing and like, sure, I I’ve got some limitations, but it’s like, but I’m, I’m not that I’m not disabled. Like I’m not enough, you know? Like there’s always that like, well, so many people have it worse than I do. And so. It’s just, it’s been a journey cuz you know, then like, oh Hey snap up your fingers. Like one day, oh I’m even worse than I was. Cool. How do I like get through this? And so like I personally wanna say thank you for just being such an advocate and for just putting so much like good discourse out there and all of these products and making it I don’t know, like it’s just, it’s a lot easier to accept and yeah. So I wanna start with saying thank you for that, but I’m curious like for you yourself, was there anything in particular or like any techniques or things that you’ve just kind of learned over the year that have helped you be more like accepting of yourself and like dealing with your own internalized ableism?

Sara: 48:40

I feel like a lot of mine came about during university. And because kind of before that it was existing like. In spite of my disability rather than with it. So like that kind of, like you said, like, oh, but like other people have it worse, you know? And it’s like, that’s not how it works. you know, and it’s, it’s not, like you said, it’s not a monolith it’s, it’s that spectrum. And it kind of really opened my eyes to the fact that many people are disabled and either they don’t know it or feel like they can’t accept it because, you know, someone has it worse than me, which has been a really kind of thing that’s ingrained into people. A lot, like it, it just seems to be like a societal standard. where people like I’ve had experiences where my parents have been like, you know, oh, well you’re not in a wheelchair. So like, you know, it’s, it’s not that bad. And it’s like, I’m an adult now. And I I’m an ambulatory wheelchair user, you know, and that you, you end up denying yourself help that otherwise could have really aided you. And when I got to university and they were like, oh yeah. Because you have these health conditions you qualify as being a disabled student and here’s all like the, the things we can do for you. Like, we can give you a laptop to work on. And like my hydraulic desk came from my university that I got to keep and things like that and getting help with affording my books and affording getting to live on campus so that everything was more accessible to me. And I was like, wow. So this is what life could be like if like I actually just accepted it and kind of became less ashamed of it. And then also having the experiences of Playing tabletop. And getting to eventually when I made that realization, I was like, well, I wanna play a character who’s like me. And getting to play my first character, who was like me in the sense that they had osteoarthritis and getting to play that character, even though there was no like official rules or supplements on how to play that character, you know, getting to, to do that was really liberating. It was like super empowering. I was like, you know, I get to be a hero and I get to do all these cool things. I think, you know, that then it kind of hit me that I was like, tabletop needs more of that because I kind of kept getting hit with, oh, but there’s no rules for it. Or there’s no equipment for that. And I was like, I’ll go make it myself then. And then, you know, getting confident. As I got more confident with rulings and, and making those things and getting more invested in the tabletop community and realizing that there are a lot of disabled people out there who play tabletop, because it is one of the most accessible hobbies I feel like a person can have, regardless of whether they’re disabled or not. You know, you don’t even need dice anymore. You can just use an online dice roller and you can buy PDFs for way cheaper than the books actually are. So, you know, you can have them all stored on like one area or bring them on your phone to, to gaming tables and stuff. So, yeah. And then, you know, I kind of made connections with the, the community who were disabled in the tabletop community. So like a community within the community. And then that kind of grew out into, no, we need to like be doing more and holding, you know, companies accountable for the content that they put out, because I always thought it was ridiculous that people had to pay extra to like have these supplement books where disability was included and it’s like, that should be at the core of the game. People are also, you know, born disabled or have an accident or illness in childhood and then are disabled adults. Or in the case of like, when I first got into the Witcher, a character becomes disabled, but continues adventuring and has to adjust to that. And these games should be more representative of that. And I was kind of you know inspired by people like Jennifer Kretchmer and Sam Gamgee like over on Twitter and they’re talking about it. And I was like, yeah, I’m gonna learn more about this whilst, you know, I’m at university. I have all these books accessible to me, so I might as well learn more about it. And yeah, ended up kind of getting really passionate about it. And then that all, you know, spiraled into the combat wheelchair. And then the response to that, both good and bad. Like the good response made me feel like, yeah, like we should be doing more of this and it should be more normalized. And then the bad response I got to, it was me being like, yeah, well, no, I’m gonna make more of it because it will upset people like you. Which is, you know, I, I, I make the content for disabled people, but knowing that it upsets people who think disabled people don’t have a place in stories. Yeah. That’s, that’s really like, good. I feel good about that. Like you know, there’s, there’s that slight little bit of being petty about it, which is just nice. Yeah, so like getting to, my, my journey has kind of been entwined. I, I would guess. Or I guess I would put it with tabletop and tabletop has helped me learn more about not just my disabilities, but other people’s and their experiences. And it’s taught me how to capture those experiences within the content that I put out. And yeah, it’s, it’s kind of gone hand in hand for me and now I can’t, it’s not that I can’t enjoy TTRPG without disability, but now that that’s just become like a staple in TTRPG for me you know, where I’ll look at a TTRPG book and the first thing I’ll look for is, oh, is there like any disability rulings? And if there isn’t, how can I put them in? So yeah, you know, it’s, it’s kind of become. Something that I used to really hate about myself as a, as a 12 year old. And I’m now 25 and, you know, couldn’t care less. I don’t feel like any shame about my disability. I feel proud of my disability and the disabled community that, you know, the D&D and TTRPG community as a whole has, and seeing that their creations as well, like is always so inspiring, like seeing other people’s whether it be subclasses or mobility aids and stuff that they’ve made themselves is always like, so inspiring to see. And yeah, like my, my enjoyment of tabletop, a lot of it has come from accepting my disability. So for me, it’s it’s yeah, like tabletop means an awful lot because it helped me get a lot more comfortable with my disability and my. My identity is a person because even though disability, isn’t a person’s whole identity, it sure is a lot of it because it impacts every part of your life. Really. So, yeah. I got to, you know, accept me and I’ve grown more as a person, I would say since, you know, accepting that about myself.

Courtney: 55:46

like, I honestly wish that I could keep talking to you for a very long time. But I do have to wind down. So Sarah, is there anything that we haven’t talked about yet that is coming up, that you’re working on, that you’re excited about, that you’re allowed to talk about?

Sara: 56:02

Let’s see. There is some DLC in the future for the Witcher that I, I worked on which can’t be specific about, but once again, like kind of tackles disability and stuff like that. And the acknowledgement that, you know, in a, in a game setting and universe that is as gritty and as filled with danger as the Witcher, is that like their role should also reflect that. So yeah, getting to, to work on that was a lot of fun and I’m excited for when that comes out. I’m not sure when really, because there are a lot of DLCs that they put out for different games at the end of, I think it’s at the end of the month that they do it now. But yeah, like usually something gets put up for every game that they do. So getting to work on that was great. The combat wheelchair version four coming out sometime this year, because every time I’m like, yeah, this is everything that I wanna put in it. I’m like, I’m just gonna add a few extra things on Which is gonna include, like I said, with all the different mobility aids there’s feats now. One of those feats being a feat for spell casters with chronic pain and one for chronic fatigue there are also feats taken for blind combatant characters like blind fighters which gives you an ability because I really hate when people are like, oh, just have blind sense or tremor sense. And it’s like that’s not how it works. So I’ve met, you know, made a feat where basically you take time as part of your turn to listen out for movement. And when you can, you can pinpoint it down to where that person roughly is, and then you get an advantage bonus on your attack. And things like that, because that is far more reflective than just saying you have a magical sense which is not how it really works. And there’s also gonna be another catalog within the version for which is wheelchairs from like across different settings. So like ones that I designed. For settings like Barovia. That one’s called the Wolfsbane and it’s designed for fighting, you know lycanthropic monsters and vampires. And it’s got like a very kind of Victorian esque, steam punk vibe. And then there is one that is for icy terrain and snow terrains. So like if you’re playing a character in ice wind Dale you can play a character that has detachable and and clip-on-able sled skis and there’s even a breed of dog that I’m introducing called Marchy dogs. And they are basically like sled dogs specifically for these like wheelchairs that you know, give you like extra bonuses and stuff over like ice and snow and things like that. And there’s also gonna be ones for underwater and yeah, just like a whole, a whole variety for like different things. So that if you want to play in a very specific setting and Don’t want to go through every niche bit of like the core rulings, You can just get given a stat block for a specific type of wheelchair to make it easier for people who want to either use it as an NPC. And also for players who asked my character has a disability where they won’t need the chair very often, but like to have it as an option would be great. So I’ll be like, okay, here’s like a stat block now. And hopefully I’m still organizing a layout for a proper a proper like combat wheelchair leak track sheet, basically to go on with the character sheets where you can, you know, keep track of weight, what items you currently have on it. And if it needs any repairs and stuff, you can note it down on, on there and keep track of it a little easier. And. Yeah. I’m also gonna do a little help sheet as well on describing wheelchairs in combat and also for players as well. Basically uh, what can I do on my turn? But further the wheelchair where it says just briefly everything the wheelchair can do very roughly summed up. So they’ve got like a, a sheet that they can bring to the table because like me, I’ll just forget because brain fog, they’ll be like, I know that the chair has this very specific thing, but I can’t remember it right now. And it’ll break it down into, what’s an action, what’s a bonus action, what’s a reaction, and what’s a free action. And what’s to be aware of in combat. So yeah, there’s, there’s a lot of things that are being added to the fourth edition, and the most exciting thing about it is fingers crossed. It’s going to be print on demand so people can get a nice, fancy hardback or paperback version whichever they prefer. And I did mention as well because there was some concern on Twitter, but I did say it’s, it’s not the chair going up behind like a paywall or anything. It’ll still be completely free and accessible online in its PDF form. Which, you know, you can print or have on your computer. It’s just for people who like me would like a fancy, nice book to put on their shelves because I like collecting TTRPG books. even if it’s just supplement books. And so getting to, to do that but that will probably be sometime after the version four is out. Because that will allow me to make any changes and, you know, also getting extra art and stuff done for a published version of the book. Yeah, I am looking forward to it. I hope to have it out. I was hoping to have it out by summer, but like summer’s here now and it’s like, it’s probably not gonna be until either just before Christmas or like December month. I do hope, hope to have it out by the end of 2022 though, for sure. And yeah, like I’m just super looking forward to that. It’s one of the things that I’ve been working on in my spare time, like between all of my big work projects, and then after that, hopefully getting it into a print on demand format would be great. And yeah, who knows what the future holds, but yeah, I, I also plan if that happens is to, to do some conventions and stuff like tabletop conventions and stuff, and talk about it more there and yeah. Do do more advocacy work and stuff like that. So there, there are plans with that. And yeah, I think that’s everything that I can kind of talk about unfortunately. But the biggest one really is the, the version four of the combat wheelchair. I mean, I’m pretty open about where I am with it on Twitter. Like I’m always talking about, I mean the other day I released what the front cover looks like for version four, which is Talon, my D&D character, using a grappling hook to climb up a wall using his wheelchair which was done by crew and Lio he is amazing and has done the artwork for ever since version two, I think cuz version one didn’t really have official artwork or anything, but Lio has done all of the artwork since. So it was really nice to have him come back and do another piece and it looks really cool and I’m really happy with it. And Talon, even in the image, has got like an upgraded wheelchair to show the progression of like each version to reflect what the chairs now look like, which has been great and a lot of fun. And yeah, I’m just really excited about version four and seeing what people make of it when it comes out.

Courtney: 1:02:57

Okay. I am a hundred percent buying that book when it’s available in book form and, yeah, just, just a few things going on.

Sara: 1:03:06

Just a few

Courtney: 1:03:09

That’s amazing. So Sarah, if people want to find you, find all of this super cool work that you are doing where should they go?

Sara: 1:03:17

Twitter pretty much for all my announcements and everything. And sometimes me either screaming and or crying about the Witcher or Star Wars in some way like I’ve not been posting spoilers, but the Kenobi TV show has got me feel in some kind of way. Very emotional every week. Yeah. That’s like one meme where it’s like from the office where it’s like, yep. I’m prepared to get hurt again. Like literally every morning when it’s on, I’m just like, yeah. Prepared to go through the emotional wreck that this episode will bring. So my Twitter is Mustangsart and I’m pretty much Mustangsart everywhere else. So my Patreon, my Ko-fi and my Instagram, which my Instagram is only for really posting pictures of my dogs. So if you’re interested in seeing two miniature doxens, one called Colin and one called Darcy. Yeah, my Instagram’s for that, but yeah. So with Patreon with the rewards and stuff, you usually either get early access to a lot of the combat wheelchair stuff before it gets put out to the public or just stuff that I’m working on in my spare time, like stuff coming out this month, there is some free stuff. So you don’t even need to buy a tier there’s some, some free fiction, which is about a disabled Witcher with a prosthetic arm. And it’s about him and hunting a bruxa, which has been a lot of fun to write. Then there is the two ancestry for D&D fifth edition, one being a vampire and another being a half vampire, a dampyr. And those are going to be tier exclusives. And I think as well for 10 pound plus tier this month is they’re getting a look at the current state of the version for manuscript, which good luck to them. It’s a hundred pages long, and I am so sorry for how long it is. And it doesn’t even contain everything that’s gonna be in it yet. But yeah, it’s, it’s all been it’s, it’s all on there. And you’ll also have access to everything that’s been on there. The second you buy a specific tier or you’ll have everything from that tier that I’ve ever posted over the past year or so. Yeah, so that’s kind of where you can find everything. Again, Pretty much Twitter is where I do my, all of my announcements, just because it’s the most accessible I’ve found, especially for tabletop. It seems to be where a lot of the community is based. So yeah. Just Twitter, which is again, Mustangsart

Courtney: 1:05:38

Awesome. Yeah, I will have links to that in the show notes. Thank you so much for coming on today. This has been a real privilege to be able to talk with you and just interrogate you about all of the things.

Sara: 1:05:49

No problem. It was really nice. Like, yeah. I love coming on and just like chatting with people who like tabletop and just wanna talk about tabletop. It’s always fun. So yeah, just getting to talk about it is just fun. Like in, in any regard, whether it be about disability or even if it’s only just lightly touching on disability, it’s just, yeah, a lot of fun to talk about.